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Health Care Debate Draws Dean, Rove To PSU
It sounded like the makings of raucous political theater: Former Democratic Party chief Howard Dean and former Bush administration official Karl Rove sharing a stage to discuss health care.
They didn’t disappoint, even if the students who brought the political heavyweights to Penn State on Tuesday night were looking for something a bit more cerebral than a town-hall tussle.
The hour-plus event ended up being a primarily lively political debate complete with good-natured one-liners, with a sprinkling of town hall-like verve provided by a smattering of anti-Rove audience members.
“Liar! Liar!,” some in a crowd of mainly students yelled at Rove toward the end of the night, when the former deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush brought up the No Child Left Behind education legislation as an example of an issue that could attract bipartisanship.
“These people must be from Michigan — or they must be from Ohio State, I don’t know,” Rove quipped, referring to Penn State’s biggest football rivals.
The verbose pair hammered each other with arguments familiar in the fractured health care fight.
Rove lambasted Democratic proposals as being modeled on broken government programs like Medicare, weighed down by staggering costs. Dean implored that it was imperative that all Americans have the option to obtain affordable health care.
“All I want is the option, I don’t want to tell people what to do,” Dean said.
In one of several interruptions by both men, Dean cut off Rove when the Republican brought up statistics that Dean said were fudged.
“It’s the first time tonight, and I’m calling you on it. You made that up,” Dean yelled.
“You just called me a liar and I don’t appreciate it,” Rove retorted in an exchange that elicited howls.
Later, Dean revealed that he and Rove got along “reasonably well,” and that the theatrics were part of the “fun of engagement and entertainment.”
Dean and Rove appeared with former Senate Majority Leaders Tom Daschle and Bill Frist for a health care forum in Georgia in May. They lectured again on the same topic at DePauw University in Indiana on Sept. 11.
Dean, a medical doctor, was Vermont’s Democratic governor and ran for president in 2004. Rove, the deputy chief of staff for President George W. Bush, is a contributor to Fox News.
Health care reform has been the most divisive issue this year in Congress and sparked fierce debate at town hall forums across the country last summer.
Most recently, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., outlined a proposal to include a government-run insurance program to compete with private health insurance plans. States could opt out of the so-called public option under the latest version of the Democratic plan. Republicans remain opposed to the government getting in the insurance business.
On Tuesday, Dean and Rove answered questions submitted ahead of time via e-mail.
“You don’t really want to allow for potentially ugly situations,” said senior Mike Perone, committee chair for the university’s student-organized Distinguished Speakers Series.
Perone said Dean and Rove were contacted through the Harry Walker Agency, a New York-based speakers bureau. They were paid $50,000 for their appearance, with money coming from the student activity fee.
Asked at a news conference before the debate the point of their appearance, Dean said, “I would like it to be education, but sometimes I think we get hired more to entertain.”
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